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Post by rueful on Feb 6, 2009 18:01:04 GMT
Good catches, lizap. I think it's probably just a slip, because I've never heard any American pronouncing those words that way. It must be so hard to keep the false accent going, on top of the actual acting, that they probably just let the smaller less obvious slipups go by. (And they do bypass me. I know exactly what types of pronunciations you mean, but I haven't noticed one yet unless it's been pointed out to me. Then if I go back I can hear it.)
Hey, if we can spend 6 pages on his hair....
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Post by GreenEyesToo on Feb 6, 2009 18:34:07 GMT
Hey, if we can spend 6 pages on his hair.... True! LOL! |
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Post by Vittoria on Feb 7, 2009 2:28:37 GMT
Meanwhile, her husband won't watch his own show while she has past episodes on dvd besides watching every week.... I wonder if Rufus ever watches his. Somehow, I doubt it. He has said before that he doesn't get analytical when he's preparing a characterisation, and he strikes me as the sort of actor who does things instinctively at the point he's performing, and then after that what's done is done. He probably wouldn't get anything out of reviewing his performance - but that's not to say he doesn't appreciate feedback from others. Just my opinion. (PS - I can't believe we're on page 3 of the thread for an episode that hasn't even aired yet!  ) Thanks for the observation GE2. And yeah.... page 4 now... LOL... and indeed we could go on about his hair forever. ;D As for his pronunciations, I haven't noticed... Something else to check for. |
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Post by tipou on Feb 13, 2009 4:20:23 GMT
***TOTALLY SUPERFICIAL AND SPOILER FREE REVIEW***
ok so i've seen the PINOCCHIO episode...
i cannot say if its good or bad, for that i will have to watch it again. mainly i've been rufus staring. THE DOCTOR IS IN. oh and rachel gets punched, poor baby.
NO,SERIOUSLY. above average episode (not the best though) with some of the usual illogical happenings. but the tone is getting much more interesting.
leads are definitely more at ease. marley shelton is totally ok with me now, except that her character is clearly no longer a "bodyguard". or else, she would lose her job. but its the writers's fault, not marley's.
the main thing that got on my nerves is that i felt like screaming "rufus, get your hands out of your pockets for god's sake!" maybe he has read some of peach's comments about his hands and he got intimidated.
ABOUT THE HAIR: i think we will all be in agreement tomorrow: there is a TREMENDOUS hairstyle improvement. like robbie said, they put a stop to gel abuse. result: THE DOCTOR IS VERY MUCH IN.
i wonder if biophysicians make house calls? my biophysic is a bit painful tonite.
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Post by tipou on Feb 13, 2009 4:32:21 GMT
oh! and also i meant to say: yesterday, while i watched criminal minds, EH episode was advertized not once, but twice.
i believe that i had not seen any publicity for the show since weeks before episode 1.
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Post by lizap on Feb 13, 2009 5:07:57 GMT
************** SPOILERS!!! *************
The most dramatic beginning yet, I think. Those incredible eyes almost spilling over with tears.
I thought this was the best villain (speaking of the hitman), and maybe the best action scene (in the motel room, and outside) so far. The villain didn't seem quite as cheesy as they have in the past, and I thought it was exciting. I'm always slightly taken aback when Hood shows hesitation and fear in those circumstances, because it isn't what one normally sees the hero do, but I think it is certainly the realistic choice.
I didn't much care for the surprise at the end, especially after thinking about it a little. Do we really want to contemplate four of that person in the world? Of course, Dr. Hood has explained before that we aren't merely the product of our genes. I'll have to watch again to gauge the questionableness of the previous scenes with the daughter, in light of the surprise
Totally agree on the tone being more interesting, the doctor being in, and the hair! Thank goodness they've let it loose. I did not notice the hands in the pockets, will have to look for that on review. Most definitely a Rufus staring episode.
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Post by Vittoria on Feb 13, 2009 5:33:28 GMT
I watched it twice (6pm and 7pm). Tipou and Lizap, I agree with what you've said. Nothing to add here. Funny though, Tip, I also noticed the hands in pockets thing. Hmmmm. Okies.. will come back later.... Time for a shower (maybe a cold one?) and to treat myself to a pedicure.  |
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Post by ambra on Feb 13, 2009 9:36:55 GMT
lizap--if I'm understanding your statement about there being four of that person in the world correctly, I'm assuming you mean Ghepeto or possibly the daughter. If so, the babies were clones of the woman who had hepetitis and Ghepeto just made extras to use for herself. While the daughter's morals, and certainly Ghepeto's, are questionable, the mother seemed horrified that her daughter would do something so unethical. Plus, as you said, it's not genetics that makes us, it's what forms us emotionally, mentally, and spiritually that determines who we are as people.
Really enjoyed this episode and would've enjoyed it even more if the reception on my tv hadn't decided to go all screwy, causing little dots all over the screen. Rufus mentioned in the Starlog interview that he wanted more of Hood's humanity to show and I think this episode brought alot of that out. The way he held and talked to the baby at the beginning, his being troubled by the direction science was going, his concern for Rachel after she got beat up, and his pulling a few strings to make sure Ezperanza got to stay with the couple at the end showed a less clinical side of him then we've seen before. My favorite scene, though, was when Gepheto told him he was a weak coward and would be good but not great like her. Although the statement was meant to hurt him, he was pleased with it since "being great" came at too high of a price. He's definitely a man more concerned about making the world a better place than having glory and power for himself.
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Post by tipou on Feb 13, 2009 12:06:02 GMT
I didn't much care for the surprise at the end, especially after thinking about it a little. Do we really want to contemplate four of that person in the world? lizap, the 4 babies are cloned from the nice old lady who needed a liver transplant, not from gepetto, thank god. i liked that part when the old lady and jacob talked together. there was so much respect from both sides. it was touching when she told him that he must be carrying a heavy load, with the things he saw because of his job. |
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Post by lizap on Feb 13, 2009 15:20:23 GMT
lizap--if I'm understanding your statement about there being four of that person in the world correctly, I'm assuming you mean Ghepeto or possibly the daughter. If so, the babies were clones of the woman who had hepetitis and Ghepeto just made extras to use for herself. While the daughter's morals, and certainly Ghepeto's, are questionable, the mother seemed horrified that her daughter would do something so unethical. Plus, as you said, it's not genetics that makes us, it's what forms us emotionally, mentally, and spiritually that determines who we are as people. lizap, the 4 babies are cloned from the nice old lady who needed a liver transplant, not from gepetto, thank god. I'm so confused! I thought the whole point of the cloning for an organ replacement (like the nice old woman), was to have a perfect match. I thought that the focus on the nice old woman and daughter was a ruse to prepare for the surprise at the end. What good would the old woman's clone do Gepetto? Wouldn't Gepetto need a clone of herself, to provide a perfectly matching organ for herself? I thought what they were telling us at the end there, is that the daughter thought she was paying for her mother to be cloned, when in fact it was Gepetto who was cloned. And what was the significance of the horse cloning place? Why would the daughter of the nice woman have paid them a huge sum of money? Sorry to be so dense! i liked that part when the old lady and jacob talked together. there was so much respect from both sides. it was touching when she told him that he must be carrying a heavy load, with the things he saw because of his job. Yes, that was really lovely. |
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Post by tipou on Feb 13, 2009 15:31:58 GMT
now, i am confused, lizap. i will have to watch again. will get back to you.
once again, it's rufus' fualt. i cant concentrate!!
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Post by ambra on Feb 13, 2009 20:47:46 GMT
Maybe pancreatic transplants don't have to be as perfectly matched as those for a liver. I'll have to watch it again too and see if I can figure it out.
Ok, didn't watch the whole thing but just the scene where they raid the hotel and find the pancreatitis meds and the last scene with Ghepeto. In the first, Hood knows the pancreatitis patient and the woman with liver failure are two seperate patients which would indicate a pancreatic transplant isn't as dna specific as a liver transplant. However, in the last scene, he says to Gepheto "You cloned those babies for yourself" which makes me think they are indeed genetic clones of her, not the woman with liver failure. That would make sense because it's not like the woman could go to the police if Gepheto cloned herself rather than the mother. And Gepheto would've wanted to make sure there was no chance of rejection and the best way to do that would've been with an exact genetic match. She may have, as Hood said in the hotel, made multiple babies in order to have a supply of multiple organs for now and maybe later. She wanted to be immortal, if possible.
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Post by spice on Feb 13, 2009 22:12:14 GMT
I really liked this episode. I just think they keep getting better and better....am I prejudiced because Rufus is the star  I was intrigued by the scene in the motel room where Hood is sitting back in the chair and his eyes brim with tears (God, Rufus has the most beautiful eyes!!!) Perhaps Hood was so emotional because he and his wife were trying to have a child before her sickness and untimely death. Am I reading too much into that scene? What do you guys think? |
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Post by dirtygirldiva on Feb 13, 2009 22:19:56 GMT
It was good, but I think they should have dragged Gephetto out a little. Like in CSI...The first season saw Grissom and Paul Millander dancing around each other until Paul finnaly killed himself before Grissom could apprehend him. And again in the 7th season with Natalie Davis (AKA: Miniature Killer)...Those two were Nemesis's...Gephetto was just a crazy psycho bi*ch with a God complex.
I liked the scene in the hotel room and I liked seeing Kevin Alejandro again. But other than that this episode was a little blah to me. Of course Ru was gorgeous but it just seems like they could have done soooo much more.
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Post by lizap on Feb 13, 2009 22:20:48 GMT
Thanks for your thoughts, ambra! I should have a chance to watch it again tonight and reassess.
spice, at first I wondered if it was something about his wife, too. In retrospect, after seeing the whole episode, I thought probably the opening tears (his eyes were brimming then, too), and also his tears later at the point you describe, both had to do with the final explanation he gave -- that he was so upset at the evil direction science was taking that he was facing the idea that he didn't want to be a part of it. This would be rather earth-shaking on a personal level, because that is his love and expertise.
The thing that makes me think that the tears you mentioned have to do with the same issue, is because at that point they have Rachel ask him what is wrong, and he puts her off. At the end, they have her ask him again, and this time he answers. My feeling is that they wouldn't have related the two episodes in such an obvious way (Rachel asking him both times what is wrong) if they didn't want us to relate the episodes to each other and conclude that his final explanation is also what was worrying him both other times.
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I was intrigued by the scene in the motel room where Hood is sitting back in the chair and his eyes brim with tears (God, Rufus has the most beautiful eyes!!!) Perhaps Hood was so emotional because he and his wife were trying to have a child before her sickness and untimely death. Am I reading too much into that scene? What do you guys think?
