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Post by GreenEyesToo on Mar 17, 2010 11:41:07 GMT
These projects are both going to be high-profile, but in terms of furthering Rufus's career the way we think HE might want it to, which do you think will be most successful?
Vote and discuss.
The poll closes in seven days. You can change your vote before it closes.
(PS: any ideas for further polls?)
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Post by numbat on Mar 17, 2010 13:59:21 GMT
Hey GE2 - where is your vote and comment??? Zen, Zen Zen all the way for me. I think the chain smoking, coffee drinking, cynical, but hopeful romantic, italian detective will become one of Rufus's great roles!!!  Once i worked out why everyone in Wallander had English accents when they obviously weren't in England, i really enjoyed that show - it was well made and interesting. I think the actual character of Zen is more interesting and has much more scope for Rufus than Wallander gave Branagh, so ultimately I think it will be more successful for him. And hopefully they will make all 11 movies eventually!! I know he doesn't necessarily want to go back to the BBC costume drama department, but making high quality BBC based TV is not all bad. I think his best work has undoubtedly been made out of Britain and Europe and Australia (yes - IASL and DC!!!). Given the fairly average treatment he was given in the US between the "baddie" hollywood roles and the short shift given to Eleventh Hour, and his stated desire to keep things interesting and take on different roles all the time, I still tend to think that his best work will continue to come from those places or at least from independent US filmakers. The Tourist is really a bit of an unknown because we know so little about the part he is playing. But if the small but cool role is of a villain, he may get great exposure, but it won't necessarily help to shake off that perception which so many (ignorant) people still seem to have of him!!! Which is why i still think that his role is of an intelligence agent of some sort who is not a villain - let Bettany take over that mantle now!!! (and he doesn't die, lol) ;D |
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Post by judypatooty on Mar 17, 2010 14:07:38 GMT
What numbat said.  Zen & Tourist are both contemporary roles instead of historical costume roles, but Roof is the lead in Zen. Zen is a good guy. "English Man" is an unknown quantity right now - maybe good, maybe bad. Zen is a complex and interesting character that Rufus will get to develop over the course of at least three (possibly 11!!!) films. That being said, appearing in a supporting role in a major Hollywood Depp-Jolie movie (along with his old AKT pal, Paul Bettany) will mean a LOT more people will see his extraordinary talent on the big screen instead of the small screen. I think both roles will mean some excellent exposure and excellent opportunities for the future.  |
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Post by wichiwoman on Mar 17, 2010 16:56:11 GMT
ditto!
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Post by francesca on Mar 17, 2010 17:18:15 GMT
Zen will ultimately give Rufus more exposure than Tourist .After all, even if he steals ever scene he is inas he usually does and he says it is a small part, in the the end it is a Jolie/Depp movie  . If Rufus wasn't it in I wouldn't go to see it even for Depp because of my aversion to Jolie.  If Zen is up to usual BBC standards , it promises to be very good indeed , strong character , good basic writing and so should be sold internationally.  I am afraid I disagree with you Kerry about his best work being outside the UK . As much as I love IASL most of his best work, award winning and nominations, have been in the U.K I have seen a quote somewhere about Rufus's attitude to fame. I wll find it and post . It is very interesting Anyway what do I know ? , I've watched "Extreme ops" twice and "Paris ,Je t'aime " |
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Post by rueful on Mar 17, 2010 17:57:59 GMT
That just means you're dedicated, Frannie. And also insightful, because I'm sure you've discovered the subtle, deep meanings behind those films.
Anyhow, I voted for Zen as well. The Tourist might give him more exposure to Hollywood types than Zen, but if those idiots haven't figured out how to use him to his fullest ability after all these years and all the stellar work he's done, they never will.
Zen will give him more exposure to UK filmmakers. Although they definitely already know his talents, casting is always about who is the hottest name currently, so a big TV series should get good publicity. And since UK productions have always given him a lot more variety in his roles, that would be more what he would want.
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Post by kygal on Mar 17, 2010 22:45:57 GMT
Will have to say Zen since I have read a couple of books and know more about him. Very interesting and entertaining character. Not sure about the English guy. Both (as well as pillars)will help his career as far as exposure goes!
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Post by francesca on Mar 18, 2010 0:52:10 GMT
[quote author=francesca board=polls thread=1268 post=93771 ti
I have seen a quote somewhere about Rufus's attitude to fame. I wll find it and post . It is very interesting
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This is the quote I was referring to
qhttp://twitpic.com/10dg9b - The reason I became an actor was to get from part to part. If I let that slip through my fingers by wanting to be famous rather than wanting to be good, then i would hate myself for it.
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Post by numbat on Mar 18, 2010 2:02:42 GMT
No, i think you misunderstood me Frannie - i mean his best work has been made from the UK, Europe & Australia ie, tend not to be from the US (with a couple of exceptions of course). I certainly wouldn't say it has only come from the UK however. I suppose it depends on what you believe his best work to be and that is a personal choice in the end. My personal choices include TOTS (UK), Charles2 (UK), IASL (Aus), DC (Aus), T&I (UK/Europe), Vinyan (Europe) and hopefully TPOTE (Canada/Europe) will be added to that list of best work soon.
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Post by vmaciv on Mar 18, 2010 3:58:44 GMT
That just means you're dedicated, Frannie. And also insightful, because I'm sure you've discovered the subtle, deep meanings behind those films. Anyhow, I voted for Zen as well. The Tourist might give him more exposure to Hollywood types than Zen, but if those idiots haven't figured out how to use him to his fullest ability after all these years and all the stellar work he's done, they never will. Zen will give him more exposure to UK filmmakers. Although they definitely already know his talents, casting is always about who is the hottest name currently, so a big TV series should get good publicity. And since UK productions have always given him a lot more variety in his roles, that would be more what he would want. I think agree that Zen will do more. If it gets the correct play on PBS in the US the audience will be large. Helen Mirren was unknown in the US until her role in Masterpiece Theatre. I also believe the role provides more of a platform for the kind of role that Rufus will be used for. And somehow I believe he wants this type of role. I cannot wait. I am not sure Tourist will further him except to the idiots who have not figured out what to do with a quality actor who is extraordinarily good looking and can play a man with deep conviction with great humilty and humanity. |
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Post by kygal on Mar 18, 2010 10:50:14 GMT
Rufus does not appear to be to keen on a certain type of fame. But I just wish he would be the top consideration as a lead in a movie like the Tourist . He could certainly "star" opposite AJ or anyone else. That is my frustration....not sure its his.
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Post by judypatooty on Mar 18, 2010 14:41:12 GMT
I keep thinking about what the Corduroy magazine article said ...
But for Sewell, acting has never been about celebrity and all its glossy benefits. "I feel very passionate about my work and I'm not very excited about the idea of fame," he says. "If the price of more success is being reduced to a certain type of role, I'd rather not have that kind of success. I would like to keep a low-key existence with the opportunities of a high-key existence. It's a difficult game to play."
And that's putting it mildly. What a tightrope he's walking every time he decides to play a role!
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Post by francesca on Mar 18, 2010 19:53:04 GMT
No, i think you misunderstood me Frannie - i mean his best work has been made from the UK, Europe & Australia ie, tend not to be from the US (with a couple of exceptions of course). I certainly wouldn't say it has only come from the UK however. I suppose it depends on what you believe his best work to be and that is a personal choice in the end. My personal choices include TOTS (UK), Charles2 (UK), IASL (Aus), DC (Aus), T&I (UK/Europe), Vinyan (Europe) and hopefully TPOTE (Canada/Europe) will be added to that list of best work soon. In which case I completely agree with you Kerry!!! |
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Post by nell on Mar 18, 2010 21:14:19 GMT
Zen gets my vote too. Having read Ratking and Vendetta Zen lsounds an interesting character to play. There's humour here too and Idon't think we see enough of that in the roles he gets.
So far all we've got to go on for the Tourist is an English Man sitting reading a paper then trotting after AJ. Yes gorgeous to look at but can't help feeling it won't make the most of Rufus's exceptional acting skills.
My favourite's tend to be British, like TOTS, Charles 2 and MMFDL but Aussie stuff also great too DC and IASL. In fact I can't think of anything that I've not enjoyed seeing Rufus in, even if Dirty Weekend did make me spill my wine straight down my front ! LOL ;D
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Post by peach on Mar 19, 2010 0:33:40 GMT
With Jolie obviously obtaining top billing the film will get much press. He may be mentioned but in passing b/c as we all are fully aware the dolts that make up the publicity don't know or are completely unaware of his vast talents. They will take him for granted and possibly mention him in passing. Which is a good and bad thing. He has been quite choosey in his roles but they've locked him into playing the same sort of characters. I've been reading the Zen books and they are fun to read, a good role for him, and I'm happy to read that PBS and Masterpiece Theatre is attached to this project. Don't get me wrong I don't think that being in what I'm sure will be a blockbuster is a bad thing, I just think that his role of Zen, if written well and directed well is meatier and more interesting role to play. IMHO, anyway. My vote went to Zen, hands down.
It will be nice to see him play a more current character.
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