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Post by anyother on Dec 12, 2010 20:00:59 GMT
Hubby's comment was - I was expecting him to say "I was just waiting for some girl to come out of the toilets" (Ha bloody ha !) Another star of the show for me was Venice. I have a bit of a love affair with this place. It always gives me a lovely warm feeling (and no I hadn't wet myself - before anyone asks). The shots of Venice were beautiful. I felt a bit glum before I went in and it cheered me up no end. Poor you, the toilet incident (or should I say Toilet incident) seems to be haunting you! Your husband should make it up with lots of Rufus-related X-mas presents. I look forward to watching Rufus and Venice - don't know about the rest. I didn't like the photo's of JD's character. I liked him in Chocolat though.
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Post by rueful on Dec 15, 2010 18:50:51 GMT
IMHO that's absolutely true! I just had a look at the other nominees: did you see how often The Tourist was mentioned - of course only AJ and JD! I've quoted this from the Golden Globes thread in TPOTE. When I read this I thought Walt was being sarcastic! Then I found out not only was it actually nominated, but it (and JD and AJ) was nominated in the category "Best Comedy or Musical"!!! I guess that explains a lot. I had no idea that it was supposed to be a musical. With all those complaints from Tipou and Rufluvr about the intrusive and inappropriate music, it's apparent that no one else did either. If only they had let Rufus sing, people might have appreciated their intent a little better. Seriously, this goes to show what a crock the Golden Globes are. They were so desperate to nominate JD and AJ (and thus improve the viewing figures for the show) that they were willing to stretch the categories so ridiculously and reward two very weak peformances.
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Post by francesca on Dec 15, 2010 22:03:53 GMT
In the run up to the release of "the Tourist", I was very quick to quote put downs and bad critiques of this film . I think this was due to my dislike of A J and perhaps to my disappointment of Rufus's small part. M(o)B and I went to see it earlier today and in spite of all my misgivings and Ms Jolie, we enjoyed it. AJ was a bit wooden and there was very little chemistry between her and JD, BUT it was light and frothy, in the style of the Hitchcock/Cary Grant films . It doesn't quite reach that standard but what does!!! The supports were all good , AJ's frocks were beautiful and Venice was wonderful! BUT There was so little of Rufus !! M(o)B commented " What a waste of RS 's acting ability " If you looked away in 2 scenes you would have missed him. However almost in the last scenes, he smiles and his eyes dance and sparkle and it made everything worthwhile. Don't go to see it as a Rufus film but go and see it as a piece of entertainment , you will probably enjoy it.
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Post by dreamer on Dec 20, 2010 19:59:24 GMT
SPOILER HERE I went to see it today, thinking it should have been bad. Instead of... I liked it. It is not so bad, apart from the small part of Rufus, and you have to stay watchful to see him and you can see mostly just his nape for few seconds! I think Johnny (but I love him) is good in his role, believable, she less, as secret agent, even if her role was of a charming luring-woman. I had just one doubt about the story: " how can she not to recognize her man during the kiss?"
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Post by PrairieGirl on Dec 21, 2010 1:59:38 GMT
Hi Dreamer, glad to see a girl after my own heart! I liked it too, see what I said on FlixChatter: "If you view it as a light-hearted, tongue-in-cheek crime caper with a lot of great scenery and star power, and don’t try to figure out the ending, you will enjoy it, either at the theater or a rental." flixchatter.wordpress.com/2010/12/12/flixchatter-review-the-tourist/#commentsAnd, as much as I hate to admit it, this is one of the most intelligent comments about Ruf in the film I've seen so far: "Although, I must say, casting Rufus Sewell is a good decoy for the audience. Not so huge a star that using him this little will tick the audience off, but well-known enough that we figure there's going to be more to him than we see." www.jaysmovieblog.com/2010/12/tourist-trailers-and-tail-end.htmlNow remember, I said "intelligent", not "correct." Obviously the guy doesn't know anything about us rabid fans here at the Rooftop! WE certainly were "ticked off" about Ruf's lack of screen time, but for 90% of the theater-going audience, he's probably right. And this movie finally took my large-screen Rufus virginity - it's the first time seeing him on the big screen. And what girl won't remember that moment forever, small but significant part nonetheless ;-D
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Post by vmaciv on Dec 21, 2010 3:37:17 GMT
I guess it is in bad taste to send the reviewer a dumbell email indicating the only reason I would ever commit myself to be tortured by Angelina Jolie is to WATCH RUFUS SEWELL . there I am better now... well almost!!!
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Post by rufluvr on Dec 21, 2010 22:54:26 GMT
Dreamer wondered how Elise "did not recognize her man during the kiss?" That's a good question, though they did keep it at just a kiss and not a full -on makeout session, which would have let the cat out of the bag. I'm thinking also the reason they didn't have them sleep together in the movie, is because during lovemaking she would certainly have realized it was Alexander. Every woman can identify her man's particular smell, taste, body and moves regardless of a new face. The screenwriter/director obviously wanted her to be in the dark until the reveal. In an earlier post Tipou asked if I knew who Alexander was before it was revealed-yes. I suspected it might be Frank before seeing the movie though I was hoping they would do something more surprising and tricky. However, since Rufus' character was too obviously the one we were lead to suspect, and they really didn't really show any other options, very early on in the film I realized they were going with Frank. What I think could have made the film more interesting though, is if they HAD had Elise sleep with Frank because then later it could have afforded some comic moments since Elise would have had some "esplainin'" to do to a jealous Alexander! Y'know, a little funny "who's on first" type of post-reveal exchange could have been a sweet denouement. As they are boating away to freedom, Frank (Alexander) looks happy and relieved, but soon we see him thinking and he then turns to Elise looking rather miffed. Frank: "Elise, I'm glad we made it, and are together for good now, but there's something I need to know. I know you love me so how could you do that?" Elise: "Do what?" Frank: "Make love to another man!" Elise: "When?" Frank: "Last night" Elise: "I was with you last night, and there were no complaints as I recall" Frank: "Your missing the point." Elise: "And the point is?" Frank: "That you thought you were with Frank!" Elise: "No, you are just thinking I thought I was with Frank" Frank: (hopefully) "So you weren't? You didn't?" Elise: "Didn't what?" Frank: "Didn't think you were sleeping with some schmuck named Frank..." Elise: "If I did, that would be between me and some schmuck named Frank." Frank: "But it was really me last night, of course." Elise: "Of course it was really you last night, otherwise how could we be even discussing this? Frank: "So you're saying now that you knew?" Elise: "You'll never know." Besides, what kind of man seduces his lover thus making her unfaithful to him??!!" Frank: Huh??? (It would hopefully have been written better than this, but you can see where I'm going with it. It could have been a really funny scene to end the movie with)
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Post by walt on Dec 28, 2010 19:40:45 GMT
Now late, but finally I saw The Tourist yesterday. And I must confess, I liked it. There's a lot of very subtle humour in it, for example when Frank tries to speak Italian, but in reality he speaks Spanish (was it one of the Italian cops who made him a compliment about this?) Or in Paris, when Elise is considering how to shake off the cops tailing her and then turns into the underground as soon as a big crowd comes up..... And Venice and its surrounding is an extra goody for the eye... IMHO the reviews may be due to a different kind of humour. Someone who likes Mr. Bean's jokes may not perceive the film director's sense of fun (nothing against Mr. Bean).... AJ and JD acting like strangers who met incidentally - would the film be feasible if they pretended to be familiar? But I have one complaint: those four mini scenes of Rufus. There must have been more filming of him, but it was cut out of the final version - I may be wrong, but I remember that there was a scene when Elise had burnt her letter and left the cafe she met the Englishman (Rufus) who turned down his newspaper and got up to follow her....
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Post by dippyponge on Dec 30, 2010 3:43:25 GMT
I found this movie bareable but guessed the plot very early on. Thought Depp was funny but Jolie didn't convince me, there was no passion. she was supposed to be in love with this guy but I never once guessed. She spoke in the same voice with the same expression throughout the movie. An ok film made better by the supporting actors I feel.
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Post by rugirl on Jan 2, 2011 18:42:15 GMT
Sorry, I am posting late, but jet returned from holiday in the snow. I saw it while on vacay and while I think JD is as self-deprecatingly humorous as ever, almost like a Cary Grant (I don't know I'm gorgeous, so I will just be funny as hell), I think AJ was too wooden and too much emphasis was put on her beauty. She is undoubtedly one of the great beauties of our time, but she can act and I think was pigeonholed as the femme fatale and not given the lines that would have allowed her to transcend that kind of unidimensional character. As for Ru, I really wish he'd had Paul Bettany's role. I like Paul, and he did a fine job. I just selfishly wanted to see more of Ru. Of course, he could have just as easily taken on JD's role.
All in all, it was an okay film, but if Ru were not in it, however briefly, I would have waited for it to come to NetFlix and rented it.
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Post by walt on Jan 2, 2011 20:05:03 GMT
Saw The Tourist today for the 2nd time - and it was worthwhile. If you know who is who you understand much more of this subtle humour! E.g. when Frank asks Elise about Alexander what she liked about him and what she disliked and she answers not knowing who he is. Or ind the end when Frank asks her whether she loves him (Frank) and whether she loves Alexander !
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Post by mo on Jan 2, 2011 20:05:56 GMT
I haven't seen it yet, mostly for not having child minder for late hours...if they screen the movie in the mornings or early afternoons... Just checked listings in local cinemas and "the tourist" is still on a list, must be popular if kept for so long, hopefully I will have my chance I like both, Angelina and Johnny for their unpopular movies mostly, like Changeling and Libertine and I would love to see Rufus on a big screen (not as much as live on stage, but still)
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Post by numbat on Jan 8, 2011 13:16:45 GMT
Reading KMK's comments on AKT just now reminded me that i haven't even made a comment on The Tourist yet. Because of Paul Bettany and his delightful shout out to Lichtenstein (which made me smile far too much!!!).
The fact that i saw this on Boxing Day but am only just commenting on it now is probably comment enough!!! But in all honesty, like many of the other girls who've seen it, i actually didn't mind it - although i always had the feeling that it could have been better, it just didn't really live up to it's potential. As a piece of entertainment it's not all that bad, but as has been said, as an example of Roof's work it's a crying shame that he wasn't cast in one of the other roles. The only compensation being of course, that he has the movie named after him. Roof's description of his role as small but crucial was absolutely spot-on. And i did like the fact that he was well spread throughout the film, from virtually the opening scene to virtually the last.
I agree with Walt's comments about the humlour of the movie being quite subtle, especially JD's work. When you watch on the basis of knowing that Frank is Alexander (which i did because i worked it out quite early), then a lot of JD's acting, instead of being on the boring/clumsy side, is actually quite funny. Because what you're watching isn't a maths teacher from Wisconsin trying to figure out how the hell he became embroiled in this mess, but is rather a master criminal/spy pretending to be a mundane maths teacher from Wisconsin trying to figure out how the hell he became embroiled in this mess. Which puts a whole different spin on it.
For example, that strange scene where he is running on the roof trying to escape the "baddies" looking like an effeminate garden gnome in PJs, what you're watching is what Alexander thinks Frank should look like. As Alexander himself, he would have hightailed it over that roof in an entirely different way i think.
As for AJ, i have to say that i barely even noticed her. The number of movies i've seen her in before can be counted on the fingers of one hand, and now i know that i've not missed anything. It's probably an embarassing confession to make as a woman, but i have to admit to not being interested in actresses in general. I only go to the movies for the good looking boys i'm afraid - but that probably doesn't come as a surprise for those of you who know me!!!
For an entirely different spin on the situation however, i went to see it with Drama Queen and he didn't know Frank was Alexander 'til right at the very end (in fact he kept digging me in the ribs saying "it's Rufus! Rufus is Alexander!") and he thought that AJ was "really good" although he preferred JD in Edward Scissorhands and Alice in Wonderland. Glad i'm not an 11 year old boy!! ;D
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Post by rueful on Jan 8, 2011 14:45:46 GMT
Numbat, you're right. Knowing JD was playing a double role does give his performance more depth. I think someone less recognizable might have been able to be more subtle about it, but he's a good actor of course. I'm glad if the role gives Rufus more exposure, but I agree with this blog post from Independent Film Channel. www.ifc.com/news/2011/01/wasted-roles-entries---stephen.php
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Post by numbat on Jan 9, 2011 1:27:53 GMT
Never a truer word spoken. I'm just glad that Rufus had already told us that he was really just a red herring and we didn't spend the whole movie waiting for him to do something important (as he should have). Forewarned is forearmed!!!
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