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Post by artisanlibra on Nov 30, 2015 12:37:48 GMT
I have to admit that I did have a niggling suspicion about Joe's connection with John; why John was taking such an interest in this young man, and why he seemed to take him under his wing. Maybe, he's a good friend of Joe's father, if there isn't a biological connection, and he swore to look out for him after the war/incident that took Joe's father from him. But, the more I look at Joe, the more I see how he could pass as John's son (with a bit more of his mother in his looks, though, I think). We'll have to hope it gets picked up for a 2nd season - with the reviews & ratings so far, I think it's a strong possibility - and see how that pans out.
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Post by kygal on Jan 9, 2017 11:50:33 GMT
I found myself more sympathetic towards John Smith in season 2. A very conflicted character. Some of the relationships surprised me.
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Post by kygal on Nov 19, 2019 11:47:02 GMT
Was really hoping John Smith would end up being a hero. That's the happy ending in me though. I do think he realized what he had become and admitted he didn't know how to stop. Conflicted. Fantastic acting by the cast. Was it really to much to hope they all lived as friendly neighbors in an alt world!?
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Post by Rachel on Nov 27, 2019 19:19:42 GMT
I wasn't surprised John committed suicide. I think the most honest John was was when he was talking to Himmler before he killed him. He didn't believe in the Nazi cause at all, everything he did he did to protect his family. I thought it was heart-breaking when he was talking to Helen and she told him they had to stop what was going on and he said he didn't know how. I think the final confrontation with Helen and her death made John realize he had nothing left to live for. He made a deal with the devil and he couldn't figure a way out. Interesting that his friend Bill had no hesitation, tossed his Nazi insignia and cancelled the air strikes, to hell with Berlin.
As for Kido, l honestly thought he would be killed to. That he would be gassed in the same room as Frank's sister and her children. Maybe for him his fate was worse. Stuck in San Francisco as a flunky for a gangster.
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Post by kygal on Nov 28, 2019 13:06:22 GMT
As much as I like happy endings it really was more true to the characters how it ended. Some amazing acting by the Smiths. I agree about the Kido end. Really thought he would get the gas.
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Post by Rachel on Nov 30, 2019 13:53:23 GMT
Oh yes, both of them deserve an Emmy. Helen's horrified reaction to John's plan to kidnap the other Thomas was a real stunner for John. As for Kido, I was with you, I really thought he would be gassed.
I also agree with you about the ending, not what I expected but true to the storyline. I had thought Helen would ask Juliana to take the girls to the other world.
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Post by kygal on Dec 1, 2019 12:28:14 GMT
I didn't think about that for the girls. Guess they made it back to their uncles. Kind of weird how the girls were not in the alternate world. If they were do you think John would have stayed?
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Post by Rachel on Dec 3, 2019 0:47:50 GMT
I don't think he would have stayed. When he was getting the report on the alternate John Smith he seemed pretty contemptuous of his being a traveling salesman. He may not have been a believer but he sure enjoyed the status and power of being Reichmarshall.
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Post by kygal on Dec 3, 2019 11:45:20 GMT
Good point. I just wondered what the point was of not having them in the alt world. Lots to ponder in season 4.
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