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Post by numbat on May 3, 2010 5:07:52 GMT
Ok, for the purpose of research i have watched the dinner table scene several times and in slo mo, and i have to say that it is most definitely mashed potato.
It's looks to be a bit lumpy, but it sticks together as mashed potato does and when she throws it at him it sticks on the spoon and makes a squelchy sound when it hits him. Unless it was really badly cooked rice, it would fall apart and be more light and grainy.
And after watching the dinner table scene i, of course, had to watch the scene that follows the dinner table scene,
So now i must go and poke my eyes out with a sharp stick.
(and my opinion for what it's worth on Rufus's ability to play these parts so authentically, is quite simply his empathy. As a warm, open, loving, decent human being, he's able to feel the pain of these characters and translate that to the screen. And that's a gift that not all actors have.)
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Post by bluehorse on May 3, 2010 7:38:00 GMT
LOL Numbat, as always, your comments are precious and also soooo funny! Thx. Now Kygal hasn't said anything yet about this serious question... so I take your opinion as the third one? I agree, the rice is badly cooked, that's why he does not eat it. But does he not say something like "I don't want rice/ I don't like rice" Or is there something wrong with my ears? Ummm... numbat.... it seems we both are the only ones here who .... errr... watch the following scene with a certain.... err... well... you know So if my "serious question" was an excuse to watch that scene again, at least you are not angry with me I also agree with you for Rufus' ability of empathy. He sure is warm,open, loving. But as I said, he is honest enough to admit that also he in some situations or circumstances has "darker" sides and this honesty helps him to play roles like this one.
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Post by numbat on May 3, 2010 8:14:55 GMT
Hahaha, it's mashed potato!!!!! He actually says to her, "i'm not going to rise to that" meaning that he's not going to react to her throwing the mashed potato at him. He know's that's what she's doing it for, to get a reaction out of him, as well as by tipping the salt onto her plate. It's also fairly unlikely i think that Nancy would prepare a meal of pork chops/steak, peas and rice. Much more likely to be mashed potato (but then again she is crazy!!!). Plus when he's so very, very annoyingly getting the peas onto his fork they're sticking there like they would to mash. And you know i'm always, er, happy to watch a bare chested bedroom scene whatever happens bluehorse (i'm not very PC sometimes )
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Post by kygal on May 3, 2010 11:16:51 GMT
LOL Bluehorse...you must have bought the rice version. Thanks for setting things straight Numbat. I wasnt sure what he said when she hit him with the potatoes...since he kind of mumbles with food in his mouth. Probably was a fun scene to film. Wonder how many takes it took. I would laugh thru it!
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Post by bluehorse on May 3, 2010 15:23:51 GMT
LOL Numbat, you made me laugh all day long.... you have smashed my rice theory, have demolished it, you have convinced me... well, let's say half way. ;D The stuff is too white for mashed potatoes (I know I can be awfully stubborn). But ok, what he mumbles has nothing to do with rice. At least another sentence I finally know what he's saying. Thx! I think next time I'll just jump over the rice/potatoe scene and will concentrate on the scene which follows, at least there are no misunderstandings Thx Numbat and Kygal for making me laugh!
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Post by tipou on May 3, 2010 16:55:03 GMT
what do you mean, too white for potatoes?
do you know there happens to be many varieties of potatoes, including yellow and blue flesh. also, maybe they introduce a practice i personnaly dislike, which is replacing milk/cream in mashed by tomato juice. i think it is really immoral to do so, but it is another possibility.
really i see no reason why anyone would throw rice at someone to underline a state of anger. being hit by 20-25 tiny flecks - while the rest would simply fly around the target, if it is stick-free rice - is nothing compared to receiving a full mashed potatoe ball right in the kisser. the director of this movie was not delicate in terms of effects, so in this regard, rice would have appeared a bit wimpy, and simply would not have had the impact we have seen.
to prove the theory, i boiled potatoes (prince-edward island russets) and rice (uncle ben's converted, long grain) and conducted an experiment. i threw mashed potatoes and rice at the wall, and compared the obtained result with what happened in the actual movie.
as expected, rice flew around in a very silly fashion, without any dramatic effect whatsoever, while mashed russets proudly shown more muscle and even produced an interesting soundtrack (kind of a loud "plotch") when they actually hit something.
i am positive, it was mashed.
and i would like to take this opportunity to point out that, once again, the movie industry - and an INDEPENDANT COMPANY TOO - snubbed the RADISH as a prop in a movie. i think the drama level would have be increased at least two-fold if she had thrown, say, a bowl of radish at him. imagine the symbolic current of red/white/red/white/red/white hitting him in the face, thus reminding us of "blood" without the gore.
now, excuse me, i have some cleaning up to do.
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Post by wichiwoman on May 3, 2010 17:05:26 GMT
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Post by rueful on May 3, 2010 21:54:16 GMT
LOL, Tipou! You have missed your calling as director. Bluehorse, this may be a cultural difference, but in the US, whenever someone flicks or spits food at another person in a movie scene, it is ALWAYS mashed potatoes. (See John Belushi, Animal House).
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Post by bluehorse on May 4, 2010 8:53:00 GMT
You are killing me, girls... still laughing. I think I won't ever be able to eat rice or mashed potatoes again without laughing. Now Tipou and Numbat are really dedicated researchers and I bow my head to such scientific devotion. Tipou, I hope you got your kitchen all cleaned up by now? Well, yes, rueful, probably the whole thing is a cultural problem. First: The potatoes we have here are quite yellowish. Second: the combination meat/peas/rice is a quite common one. Third: I probably bought the Asian version of the DVD Now please girls, don't mess up your kitchens just for the sake of research again, but I stick to my rice theory ;D Because it was STICKY RICE!!! Not Uncle Ben's or parboiled or whatever. Sticky rice!!! Throwing sticky rice, part of it sticks to the spoon! It is also a genuine sign of hatred that Nancy has cooked sticky rice, salt free and tasteless. Another scientific proof of my theory is the fact that on his shirt there are no spots (at least I could not see any). Mashed potatoes would leave quite visible traces, but all I can see is a thin white line over his mouth, his shirt immaculate. So I'm really sorry to say that despite all your efforts... I STICK TO MY STICKY RICE THEORY!!! And OK, you can call me the most stubborn Rufan on Earth But I love you all, even if you stick to mashed potatoes
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Post by numbat on May 4, 2010 9:59:45 GMT
Hahaha, don't think you're going to get away with having the last word bluehorse!!! I believe, through my highly evolved powers of logic, that you have actually shot your own argument in the foot! As you said, the problem is most likely a cultural one - that YOUR potatoes are quite yellow, and that where YOU are from, meat potatoes & rice is quite common. The loving Stockwell family however, does not reside in Germany near Austria, but rather in somewhere anywhere middle america!!! Now i'm afraid to break it to you my love, but through many careful hours of watching The Simpsons, i have concluded that the only meal actually eaten by the masses of middle america (all the culturally diverse US girls on this board excepted of course!!!) is in fact meat, peas and mashed potato, because this is all Bart, Homer, Marge, Lisa & Maggie appear to have on their dinner table. Which is exactly why they chose that meal for the Stockwells to be eating because their life is so very somewhere anywhere middle america (where the potatoes are white & starchy & fluffy white rice comes from an Uncle Bens packet ready to be popped into the microwave!!!) And I can assure you bluehorse, that Nancy would have no concept whatsoever of glutinous asian rice!!! As far as stubborn Rugirls go, you've only just scratched the surface - because we're not just stubborn, we're right!!! ROFL ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by tipou on May 4, 2010 11:48:46 GMT
RAI! ARE YOU READING? RUFUS FANDOM IS DIVIDED! ASK HIM PLEASE! WAS IT RICE OR POTATOES?
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Post by bluehorse on May 4, 2010 15:04:15 GMT
uuuuhhh, my cheek bones are aching from all the laughter. Please, please... I surrender... yes, it was mashed potatoes, yes, yes, yes... at least on your continent, but please stop it. You're right, you're bloody right. But please no more messing up kitchens! Ummm... well, you're right as far as your continent is concerned. But I will stay on mine with sticky rice OMG, when will we ever return to SERIOUS questions? If being Rufan means being stubborn, and means being right, this will go on forever?
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Post by tipou on May 4, 2010 16:34:53 GMT
exactly.
and I, for one, was bieng serious.
;D
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Post by tipou on May 5, 2010 2:29:14 GMT
RUFUS: and then she said... ahhah... she said: "I STICK TO MY RICE THEORY !" ... AHAHHAHAHAHAHH
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Post by bluehorse on May 5, 2010 7:31:24 GMT
Tipou Well, if my sticky rice theory can make him laugh like this... then more than ever: I WILL STICK TO IT FOR EVER!!!! And make him laugh over and over again. I love to see him laugh!
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