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Post by peach on Feb 5, 2009 20:19:04 GMT
Sorry Rueful, if I've burst your bubble. If anyone owns the DC dvd nad if there is narration in the beginning then that was the original theatrical release, the Director's cut omits all narration and has added and elongated certain scenes, including the opening with Ruf in the bath, it's also been enhanced digitally, the quality is quite noticable. Either version is worth viewing, but having seen both I much prefer the director's vision. Great film all around.
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Post by rueful on Feb 5, 2009 21:44:48 GMT
Sorry, peach I guess I wasn't being clear--I hate hate hate Titanic (see the thread on bad films). Sad to say, I have never seen Dark City. I just don't like the idea of it being pushed out of theaters by that piece of crap.
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Post by peach on Feb 5, 2009 23:04:49 GMT
Yeah I thought the hype was a bit much, the costumes and jewelry were all that I liked in the film, no surprises with this one let's face it we all know the ship sinks. It's a shame that no one really saw the film. I did read somewhere, perhaps here that with the release of the directors cut that it might be shown in a very limited run, but sadly that never came to fruition.
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Post by Vittoria on Feb 7, 2009 2:49:44 GMT
Loved this movie! Intelligent, well-acted, original, all things seriously lacking in most commercially popular films. And, oh the bathtub scene at the beginning! Just what I needed to warm me up on a cold winter's night! I can't really add more than what has already been said. I'm glad I got the director's cut because for me, the feeling of confusion I had at the beginning of the film let me travel on the journey with Murdock as he discovered the truth of his existence rather than feeling like I was just observing. I also watched the commentaries and one of the writers was talking about the casting. They had evidently tried to get Johnny Depp; no disrespect to Mr. Depp, but the writer summed it up very well when he said that even though the character was an amnesiac it would've come off as Johnny Depp playing an amnesiac, making it harder for the audience to go on the frightening journey with Murdock. There was even talk of Tom Cruise being cast in the lead which is just blasphemous! There's no way he could've carried that role with the same skill as Rufus! One of the funniest parts in the commentaries is when they're talking about adding the prolougue to the beginning of the original theatrical cut because people found the movie too confusing. Rufus makes the comment that he felt they were forced to do it to make the film appeal to a certain audience and says, "I just say to that F--- 'em!" God that made me love him even more because I SO agree with that sentiment! There's nothing wrong with movies that are strictly for entertainment; they're a great respite from the real world but for the love of all that is holy, I wish Hollywood would stop "dumbing down" intelligent movies because some people can't or don't want to think at all when they see a film! There are those of us who don't mind paying money to see a film that challenges us intellectually while it entertains! Depp or Cruise? Man, am I ever glad they chose Rufus! So, that whole bit of dumbing things down and Rufus said, "F--- 'em"? Priceless! Thanks for sharing that! Ooo.. That would be lovely! As for the DC... I looked into it. I had ordered the wrong one! Thanks so much everyone in this thread who talked about the DC. So, I went into Columbia House site and also ordered the DC.... Then, today phoned them to get the wrong one off my list! Whew! That was a close call! |
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Post by ambra on Feb 7, 2009 4:44:45 GMT
Vittoria--the full quote from the commentary is now my sig. You're going to love this movie, not just for the bathtub scene but for the genius piece of filmmaking it is.
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Post by Vittoria on Feb 7, 2009 6:22:55 GMT
Vittoria--the full quote from the commentary is now my sig. You're going to love this movie, not just for the bathtub scene but for the genius piece of filmmaking it is. I love that quote. It f---in' rocks! Hell yeah!- Rufus rocks! I've already seen the movie- just don't own my own copy yet. Saw it on cable. Indeed, it a genius piece of filmmaking. I actually rate it above The Matrix now, which is something I thought impossible as The Matrix has been my fave for so long.  |
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Post by Famke on May 25, 2009 18:57:48 GMT
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Post by tipou on May 26, 2009 0:13:51 GMT
ooooohhhh yeah. that is a good shot. thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you. |
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Post by ofelia1 on Jul 17, 2009 23:57:37 GMT
I saw DC (the director's version) two weeks ago and I really loved it since the first minute (and not for the reasons you are all thinking, ladies, as you know well the first escene... ok, maybe a little bit  ). I must say that it was the second time I saw it and that the first time I didn't got into it. I like cinema very much and I watch different kinds of movies, and I'm quite critic sometimes... but science fiction is not one of my favourite genres. For some reason the plots are not usually very appealing for me. I know some science-fiction films are awesome, works of art and I appreciate them as so, and I like to watch them. There are only a few that I really like, and DC has joined that list. The first time I saw it was two years ago, it was my boyfriend at that moment who brought it home. We both enjoyed cinema, but he was a science fiction fan and said "I saw this film a few years ago, you must watch it, it's very good". I suppose I was a bit tired of sci-fi at that moment and if you add that the quality of the copy wasn't very good and my boyfriend asking all the time "what did he say?" (there were no subtitles and maybe I have difficoulties with English sometimes but he definetely had many more! Thanks he had seen it!!!)... anyway... I just didn't pay much attention to it. (however, I did pay attention to Rufus eyes...  ) But this time has been totally different. I got into the film inmediately and I liked it so much. To start with, the cast is wonderful, all of them (I love William Hurt, wonderful actor). What a terrible mistake would have been having another actor playing Murdoch's role (Tom Cruise  What were they thinking, or not thinking I might say, about?). The plot is very well developed, I think there's no need of an introduction speech (I don't remember which one was the version I saw the first time), I mean that a story must make sense when knowing it complete, why should the audience need help from the beginning? The story is about searching the truth and the audience is doing it with the characters. And visually, it's beautiful. Not in a colourful and shinny way of course, but colours, shadows and lights make a very special atmosphere, delicate but powerful at the same time. About comparisons with other films... obviously you can't see it and not think in Metropolis but for me, it was Brazil the one I had on my mind all the time. And about Matrix, I'm sorry for those who liked it, but I didn't. What was an interesting story just got lost between loads of special effects and technology. What is very different about the main character in DC is that he is always human, he is lost, he tries to survive, to understand and even when he knows that he can make things change he is still a man. I will repeat.. I just loved the film! And... about Mr. Sewell's "other talents" wich are widely discussed on these boards (oh, yes, I don't remember who wrote recently that we all jump from a serious discussion about films, or books... to discuss about his... whatever)... he looks so handsome!!! And what a beautiful eyes he shows in this film! And what about that beautiful light on his skin? (I mean during the the whole film, not only the first scene.... what were you thinking?) Ok, excuse me for this long post... don't blame me... it's late, nearly 2 a.m., and at this time I talk-write too much... |
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Post by judypatooty on Sept 27, 2009 14:23:21 GMT
I just watched Dark City (the Director's Cut on Blu-Ray) and I am speechless. This film is incredible. Just incredible. The cast is fantastic and visually the film is extraordinary. Kind of futuristic yet old-fashioned film noir at the same time. The Matrix meets the Borg. Just incredible. Of course, Rufus simply shines in his role. He never ceases to amaze me how he can convey so much with just his facial expressions. He is totally convincing in portraying John Murdoch's confusion, fear, frustration, anger, determination ... The one major benefit of the Blu-Ray version is the unbelievable sharpness and clarity of the film -- and for a film that is so intensely visual it's a real treat! (Oooh that bathroom scene at the start!!!)  The MAJOR drawback to this new version of the film is that they no longer have Rufus' commentary on the DVD. Grrrrrrr.  |
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Post by francesca on Dec 6, 2009 4:05:41 GMT
I first saw this on tv , then once before on dvd so I saw it without the spoiler monologue at the beginning ,which I am very glad about .I think that would have ruined it for first time viewers.When are the Holly wood suits going to give us credit for having some intelligence.
I am a sci-fi and a thriller buff as well as a RS addict so loved this film . The sets and the lighting were wonderful creating a creepy, eery atmosphere adding to the confusion John Murdoch was in.
The cast was superb. Kiefer Sutherland making my flesh crawl John Hurt's "good" man
And what to say about Rufus , I think sometimes his looks overshadow his talent but he never gives less than his best .As John , his confusion and horror at what was happening to him , his intelligence making him fight back for what was good.
I saw the Matrix trilogy before this film and enjoyed them but this is in a different class altogether .
Added to this there were the extras which included Rufus talking about its making and some photos he had taken on set including a few of him I hadn't seen before.The difference too between the quiet watchful controlled character he played and the bubbly ,talkative ,vivacious man he is,was amazing. Enchanting.
No chocolate needed but a nice glass of wine made this a real treat.
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Post by vmaciv on Dec 7, 2009 4:37:21 GMT
I have to say Dark City is my favorite of his movies. I did enjoy Knight's Tale. He was wonderfully evil and Dangerous Beauty, he was sexy and loyal. BUT Dark City was absolutely wonderful. I would love to see him do more of that.
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Post by rufluvr on Dec 8, 2009 19:41:26 GMT
Judypatooty mentioned watching DC on a blu-ray player. Is the picture quality really that much better than just a high-def tv? If so, I can see how that could add a lot to watching a sci-fi flick, where the visual element of the movie makes such a huge impact on the viewer.
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Post by bee on Mar 14, 2010 15:01:42 GMT
 , what a great Movie!!! I watched DC yesterday night, and I don't know what to say because, there is nothing left i could say here (You've already said everything...) XD I really like the story and the atmosphere, it's wonderful creepy, especially these "Strangers" when they make these... sounds. I need this movie on DVD.... arrg.... but there is no german release in sight, so... i think i'll buy the (for me) UK-Import. ;D In the Director's Cut, are there any subtitles? Aaah Rufus, GREAT ACTING!!! No matter what role he plays, he plays it with all his heart. Great Movie!!!!! |
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Post by nell on Sept 5, 2010 13:07:59 GMT
I watched the Directors cut on Blu-ray first but when this one came up in movie of the week thought I'd finally get around to watching the theatrical cut. Then I had to go back and watch the Directors cut again. Only then did I find there's a directors cut fast track which takes you through the film and highlights the differences. I prefer the Directors cut and I'm glad I'd watched it first. You feel as though you're on a journey with John Murdock and as much in the dark as he is for the first half hour. For me the theatrical cut told you too much at the start with the Keifer Sutherland commentary. It totally removed May's daughter too and some of the scene's were extended in the Directors cut - particularly the all important bathroom scene, valuable extra seconds there. There were a few extra lines in the DC but a couple of lines were also removed but I didn't think it suffered for it. A few special effects were toned down and a few scenes moved to other parts of the film. and a few small extra scenes were added e.g. you saw the policeman drop Emma at her apartment which led up to another scene. The picture quality is amazing, just what you want for a special effects movie like this. I enjoyed the story line to a kind of 40s detective mystery, with a love interest merged with a sci-fi. One thing that made me laugh was how like some of our games the speech was in the film. When the Mr Men spoke it was like the alphabetical game Mr whatever his name was, No more Mr Whatever his name was - Mr whatever his name is dead, Oh, Poor poor Mr Whatever his name was !  Keifer's character was like the 3 word game as he could only run 3 words together at a time ! All jokes aside I thought it was a great movie. I had heard that a certain Mr Sewell was unhappy with his performance in this. I think he did a great job  . What does he know huh ? ;D |
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). I must say that it was the second time I saw it and that the first time I didn't got into it. I like cinema very much and I watch different kinds of movies, and I'm quite critic sometimes... but science fiction is not one of my favourite genres. For some reason the plots are not usually very appealing for me. I know some science-fiction films are awesome, works of art and I appreciate them as so, and I like to watch them. There are only a few that I really like, and DC has joined that list. The first time I saw it was two years ago, it was my boyfriend at that moment who brought it home. We both enjoyed cinema, but he was a science fiction fan and said "I saw this film a few years ago, you must watch it, it's very good". I suppose I was a bit tired of sci-fi at that moment and if you add that the quality of the copy wasn't very good and my boyfriend asking all the time "what did he say?" (there were no subtitles and maybe I have difficoulties with English sometimes but he definetely had many more! Thanks he had seen it!!!)... anyway... I just didn't pay much attention to it. (however, I did pay attention to Rufus eyes... 
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What were they thinking, or not thinking I might say, about?). The plot is very well developed, I think there's no need of an introduction speech (I don't remember which one was the version I saw the first time), I mean that a story must make sense when knowing it complete, why should the audience need help from the beginning? The story is about searching the truth and the audience is doing it with the characters. And visually, it's beautiful. Not in a colourful and shinny way of course, but colours, shadows and lights make a very special atmosphere, delicate but powerful at the same time. 
. What does he know huh ? ;D