In a Savage Land

[Petruchio - Good God]

sigh... I couldn't resist to watch it again yesterday evening....

[walt]

Jul 29, 2013 10:24:13 GMT kygal said:

Thanks. Must watch this again soon!

Thanks PGG! -  That's a good idea, Kygal!

[rueful]

Beautiful screencaps, PGG. Thank you!

[francesca]

Thanks PGG for the beautiful screencaps

Now I am going to throw the cat amongst the pigeons !


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[quote On the other hand, it's fun to speculate what might have happened afterwards, as it basically leaves all options open. I like to think that they did have a good life together. Not in a ride-into-a-Technicolor-sunset way, but a real, lively, hands-on partnership (fierce clashes included, stubborn and proud as they both are).

and Laila

[/quote]The end seems a bit rushed, the scene while waiting for the train is too short. Just 10 minues more, even with no script. Not necessary an happy endng, a sign of things to come, of how they will cope with Mick's disability and maybe the last scene, the same as before but in the present, after some years. Because if the ring is gold, love will last forever.

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I am sorry ladies but I have to disagree.
I have watched this beautiful film a minimum of six times , and from the first exquisite words 'I once met a man, not my husband; another man.' to the last heart wrenching scene ,it was very clear that the beautiful Mick was going to die.
Maybe not straight away but soon.
The words 'I once met a man ' tell that evelyn is looking back .
Sorry Ladies.'Love may last forever' but people die.
( Quickly ducks down behind the parapet to avoid flying missiles.)[/font]

[kissmekate]

You have a point there, Frannie. No need to fear any missiles

If I say they will have had a good life together, it doesn't necessarily mean that it was a long one, and yes, I fear the time they had was a lot shorter than what they would have deserved, although I often tried to tell myself Evelyn was an elderly lady at the time she narrated the little prologue.

Anyway, one thing is pretty clear to me: No matter if they had five months or five years (or maybe twenty-five after all?), Evelyn outlived her beautiful beloved man for quite a while. Somehow I feel she lived to see rather old age and never had eyes for another man after Mick was gone for good.

[adina]

(No, Mick died in the war. The structure of the movie got lame when they changed this.)

[francesca]

Jul 30, 2013 18:02:53 GMT kissmekate said:

You have a point there, Frannie. No need to fear any missiles

If I say they will have had a good life together, it doesn't necessarily mean that it was a long one, and yes, I fear the time they had was a lot shorter than what they would have deserved, although I often tried to tell myself Evelyn was an elderly lady at the time she narrated the little prologue.

Anyway, one thing is pretty clear to me: No matter if they had five months or five years (or maybe twenty-five after all?), Evelyn outlived her beautiful beloved man for quite a while. Somehow I feel she lived to see rather old age and never had eyes for another man after Mick was gone for good.

Yes I am with you there Kate, I think that having found her love, whether they were together for a long or a short time. Evelyn would not love anyone else after Mick .

[Laila]

Maybe I missed something but I don't think there is some dates to confirm us that Evelyn was remembering something happened right after the end of the movie (or some months or some years). She was looking back, Mick is probably not with her anymore, ok but when?

The scene when they met at the station always gives me the impression of a story to tell. And the last scene confirms that the "pearl" prediction was right. Love, when it's true, lasts longer the the person you loved but beside this consideration I did not get the feeling that Mick was going to die soon.

(No, Mick died in the war. The structure of the movie got lame when they changed this.)

That would make more sense (to be honest, I'm happy they change it) but since they made him come back, we need to go on with the "canon" and the open ending is quite open indeed and maybe - like Kate - I love to think that they had a life together and "Evelyn was an elderly lady at the time she narrated the little prologue.".

It seems to me we are not saying different thing, maybe it's just the timeframe that is slightly different. I think too Mick died long before Evelyn, just don't want to add the word "too soon".

True to be told, I'm hopelessy romantic...

[Rachel]

I have to say I don't agree with Adina - I don't think the structure of the movie was harmed by Mick surviving the war. While the revised ending did leave us with the promise of a happy ending - I don't know how happy it would have been. Mick had a long, hard road ahead of him in terms of ajusting to his injuries, settling back into civilian life, etc. Plus, he was a proud man, he wouldn't have liked being supported by a woman, it would have grated on him. It's one of the reasons I think he and Evelyn never married (remember she makes a distinction between her "husband" and Mick). He would want her to be free to walk away from him if the situation got to be to much for her.

And Frannie - don't forget, the movie "Titanic" was told as Rose looking back and she was in her 80's! So while Evelyn is looking back, we don't know how old she was when she was reminising. I do agree with you that Mick died before her though.

[francesca]

Jul 31, 2013 17:04:35 GMT Rachel said:

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And Frannie - don't forget, the movie "Titanic" was told as Rose looking back and she was in her 80's! So while Evelyn is looking back, we don't know how old she was when she was reminising. I do agree with you that Mick died before her though.

Um...Er... Rachel, I didn't say I thought Evelyn died young I thought Mick , poor love, did.
Evelyn may have lived to a ripe old age, but she would never love anyone else.

[Laila]

I'm very pleased to see that there are a lot of personal views on what happened after the end of the movies or even the timeline of the events. I would say it's a good thing because you can see what you want to see but I'm not sure if was done in purpose by the writer/director or was just a case of good luck.

Anyway, I believe we all agree that, it doesn't matter when he died, Evelyn would not love anybody else.

[Rachel]

Frannie - I expressed myself badly. What I meant to say is that I don't think Mick died soon after the end of the film. It is possilbe that the Evelyn speaking in the prologue was speaking from an advanced age. While his injury was severe, he did survive it and the resulting surgeries. So he had the possiblity of living to a good age.

[francesca]

I think that this is what I love about this board ... that we can discuss things so freely.

Love you all

[kissmekate]

Jul 31, 2013 18:25:12 GMT Laila said:

I'm very pleased to see that there are a lot of personal views on what happened after the end of the movies or even the timeline of the events. I would say it's a good thing because you can see what you want to see but I'm not sure if was done in purpose by the writer/director or was just a case of good luck.

I don't know either but it is exactly what I love so much about this film. It answers just enough questions so you're not left utterly dissatisfied at the end, but it keeps lots of others open and has you wondering what might or might not have happened, both during the years "in between" and after the end of the movie.

Rachel said:

While his injury was severe, he did survive it and the resulting surgeries. So he had the possiblity of living to a good age.

That's what I prefer thinking, although I guess all he went through did take its toll at some point and he wouldn't have made it to very old age. I also agree with all you said before. Mick would certainly have severe misgivings about Evelyn supporting him and his not being able to contribute to their living the way he could have done before he lost the leg.

[Rachel]

Aug 1, 2013 7:08:08 GMT kissmekate said:

Rachel said:

While his injury was severe, he did survive it and the resulting surgeries. So he had the possiblity of living to a good age.

That's what I prefer thinking, although I guess all he went through did take its toll at some point and he wouldn't have made it to very old age. I also agree with all you said before. Mick would certainly have severe misgivings about Evelyn supporting him and his not being able to contribute to their living the way he could have done before he lost the leg.

It's even more than wanting to contribute to their living.  Prior to the war Mick was a man of substance, he owned his own boat, was a pearl trader as well as a trader in other goods, most likely he was a wealthy man (even if he didn't display his wealth).  The war cost him his way of life, all of his possessions, his life savings, along with his leg.  That's an awful lot for a man to recover from.