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Post by rueful on Feb 5, 2009 5:22:54 GMT
Even better, her costar is Kevin Zegers, who got his start as a child in "Air Bud." I vote for the politically correct, color-blind casting of Raven and Urkel in the Estelle Parsons and Gene Hackman roles!
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Post by ambra on Feb 5, 2009 6:36:00 GMT
I changed my sig to a quote by Rufus, commenting on the reason the prolouge was added to "Dark City", basically "dumbing it down" to appeal to more people. I think it's appropriate in light of this casting fiasco.
When he said this, I yelled at the screen, "Thank you!" It's refreshing for an actor to just basically say, "Look, if a movie is over your head, then go see something else. Don't punish the people who are willing to put in the time and effort to actually think while they're watching a film!"
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Post by rueful on Feb 5, 2009 15:32:21 GMT
Even though I've never read anything about him being mean to anyone, ever, someone who worked with Rufus said he doesn't "suffer fools." He seems to have such a sharp intelligence, you can see how he'd be annoyed by the BS (as he's made clear in some inteviews). Poor man, out in Hollywood he's surrounded by nothing but fools.
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Post by tipou on Feb 5, 2009 15:56:57 GMT
well that is certainly something we have in common, he and i.
stupidity is something that can get on your nerves.
for example: that guy yesterday at the grocery's check out line, who kept pushing me with his cart because he was "fed up waiting" (the reason he gave me after the 3rd push). i told him that his pushing would not make the 4 people in front of us disappear, and that if he was to hurt my heels for good, that would only make him wait longer.
he looked at me with this asinine look, and said "but i am in a hurry."
i told him that it was infortunate that he chose the "lazy bones counter", and turned around again.
HE PUSHED ME WITH CART AGAIN!
i mean, were i a guy, i probably would have punched him in the nose.
instead, i just leaned back against his cart, and pushed back, until people behind him protested.
then he kept away.
stupid people...
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Post by dirtygirldiva on Feb 5, 2009 16:21:01 GMT
I'd have hauled off and threw the latest copy of "O" at him. Maybe the first time I would have given him the benefit of the doubt, but 3 times? and then what he said? Oh yeah, his cart would have been flipped up and tossed.
I have a similar rant about casting. Although it's more about remakes and adaptions.
Why in the heck would you change a movie drastically that was based on a book? My biggest and most annoying example of this? Harry Potter. The first two movies were damn near perfect, they kept as much of the story in as they could, the casting was a thing of beauty...I mean Alan Rickman as Severus Snape? Pure perfection. The sets all looked exactly how I imagined them to look like while reading the books and the dialouge was spot on. Now jump to the third installment done by Alfonso Cueron. My biggest beef wasn't even what most peoples beef was. I mean you obviously can't have the same actor play Dumbledore if said actor is dead...and Sir Michael Gamdon did a fine job. My biggest beef was the blatent lack of care he took with the set. I mean what was the deal with Hagrids hut being down a rocky, steep hill and almost out of visibility of the castle? I mean if you are gonna change it from the book fine, creative liscence and all that, but the first two movies established a clear look of the castle and its surrounding grounds. Why change it? Hagrids hut is not portable...he doesn't just pick it up and move it when he feels the need. I understand the lighting being darker, and the castle interior looking smaller, it's meant to be a darker movie and the children are growing, hence the castle not looking so huge and awe inspiring as it did when they were first years...but everything else? BS.
Oh and Snape was levitated out of the tunnel under the whomping willow, getting his head bumped along the way...he didn't run of his own accord out of the tunnel...damnit.
Eh....
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Post by GreenEyesToo on Feb 5, 2009 17:14:26 GMT
Why in the heck would you change a movie drastically that was based on a book? This reminds me of my pet gripe about The Shining. The whole premise of the book was that the evil in the hotel gradually took over Jack Torrance and made him violent - so who do they cast? Jack Nicholson! So you knew right away he was going to be whacko - totally ruined the film for me, a felony compounded by having Shelley Duvall play his wife. Grrrrrrr! And, Tipou, I totally sympathise with you over that guy and the shopping trolley. That has happened to me. I asked the woman to stop bumping me, she claimed it was an accident then did it again. I turned round and told her loudly that if she did it once more, I would pack my goods reeeeeeeally slowly, and get slower still every time she did it. I got a black glare from the girl behind her, but it did the trick. Grrrrr again! |
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Post by dirtygirldiva on Feb 5, 2009 17:42:30 GMT
I would have caused a scene....but that's just me.
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Post by tipou on Feb 5, 2009 17:48:51 GMT
Why in the heck would you change a movie drastically that was based on a book? This reminds me of my pet gripe about The Shining. The whole premise of the book was that the evil in the hotel gradually took over Jack Torrance and made him violent - so who do they cast? Jack Nicholson! So you knew right away he was going to be whacko - totally ruined the film for me, a felony compounded by having Shelley Duvall play his wife. Grrrrrrr! yes, i see what you mean. its not a bad movie, but when you've read the book, its so totally something else. what i found terrifying in the book did not make it to the screen, pehaps it was not spectacular enough... like the bit about the wasp nest, which kept me from sleeping for a couple of nights. and the part when torrance dies, in the book as compared with the movie. brrrr. and shelley duvall was totally appaling in this movie.she looked so wimpish and whined all over the place, so you were kind of glad when jack went after her... which was not good, at all, suspense-wise. am i crazy or that was a kubrick movie? was it kubrick or de palma? in my mind, it looked like a de palma movie, but i think it was kubrick. not necessarily a compliment to The Stanley. |
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Post by GreenEyesToo on Feb 5, 2009 18:06:19 GMT
Kubrick.
I thought the scariest part of the book was to do with the topiary animals, which had "moved" every time Danny looked around. Creeped me out completely! Totally unfilmable, that scene, as the effect is totally in your own mind, so I'm glad they didn't try.
The same theme was used in an award-winning episode of the UK series Doctor Who, called Blink, where every time the two protagonists blinked, these angel statues grew closer and more evil - scary stuff!
Tip, if I hadn't read the book, I would have really liked the film.
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Post by peach on Feb 5, 2009 20:42:45 GMT
There was a tv remake of The Shining with Tim Daly, that in my opinion was superior to the Kubrick version. It stayed closer to the book and made more sense. I read that book in one day,many, many years ago and I couldn't put it down. My father had taken it out of the library and I took it off his nightstand and didn't give it back until I was finished. Love his books. Sadly Duff is flavor of the month as are any performer from HSM, the Jonas bros. and any pseudo talent that recently reached puberty. This is what accounts for talent in h'woods eyes and they will be pushed down our throats. Sad part is I'll bet these movies make a ton of money too.
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Post by ambra on Feb 5, 2009 21:03:14 GMT
Actually, I think it was Steven Weber who played the lead in the remake but I do remember that movie. It was done as a two-part mini-series.
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Post by maxx02 on Feb 5, 2009 22:06:58 GMT
The same theme was used in an award-winning episode of the UK series Doctor Who, called Blink, where every time the two protagonists blinked, these angel statues grew closer and more evil - scary stuff! What are you thinking of the new Doctor? I know very little about him but I wouldn't want to have to walk in David Tennants shoes. |
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Post by peach on Feb 5, 2009 22:59:06 GMT
Yes Steven Weber, thank you. Have you seen it? I appreciated his performance, subtle and you feel sympathy for the man when he finally goes mad.
A major rant. I drive to work and leave with enuf time in case of unforseen problems, why is it that when I do 65 mph there are people who are tailgating me? There are other lanes they can drive in but they seem to like the one I'm in, like tailing me will make me go any faster, not, especially with the rash of bad weather we've been having lately, the roads have been icy. I'm beginning to think that half of the population is medicated, either that or they're all late for work. What gives? It's gotten so much worse too.
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Post by ambra on Feb 5, 2009 23:43:16 GMT
Even though I've never read anything about him being mean to anyone, ever, someone who worked with Rufus said he doesn't "suffer fools." He seems to have such a sharp intelligence, you can see how he'd be annoyed by the BS (as he's made clear in some inteviews). Poor man, out in Hollywood he's surrounded by nothing but fools. I definitely don't see Rufus accepting "diva" behavior on a set, which, sadly, is expected when a studio cast someone like Lindsay Lohan. It seems everyone else is expected to bend over backwards for the "star" no matter how demanding and unprofessional they are and while I don't think Rufus would throw a Christian Bale-type onset tantrum, I do think he'd have no problem telling them exactly what he thought about their behavior and that it was unacceptable. Tip, I used to work at wal-mart and I got so mad at people who came in at the busiest times then complained because they had to wait. That's why I do all my shopping late at night, when there are no lines. peach, yes I did see that version and I enjoyed it very much. I know what you mean by traffic. I usually have at least one big rig tailgating me when I'm headed to work and it makes me really nervous. |
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Post by peach on Feb 6, 2009 1:03:26 GMT
Ambra, you mentioned Lohan, a legend in her own mind. Many years ago Dustin Hoffman made a movie with Sir Laurence Olivier called Marathon Man, Sir Olivier was extremely ill at the time, I think it was cancer, you can see how frail he was. William Goldman recounted a moment during filming when the two had a scene together, Hoffman it seems wanted to rehearse the same scene over and over again, never thinking how his costar might be feeling, he said the "rehearsing" went on for quite some time, when Olivier said to Hoffman, "My dear Dustin, why don't you just try acting?" Goldman said he never forgave hoffman for putting Olivier through the ordeal. It infuriates me when they pull the star treatment thing. But someone has to tell them enough is enough, damn the egos, Lohan is a train wreck, but whose to blame, the media for putting her in the spotlight, the papparazzi, her parents, I can't figure it out. We place way too much emphasis on the h'wood sect. That's why Ru is such a breath of fresh air, I can't remember the last time I saw him in the tabloids or one of those celeb shows that kill the brain cells (little known fact # 14). He's low on the radar and maybe that's not such a bad thing. He seems so unfazed by it all. Hope he stays that way.
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