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Post by GreenEyesToo on Jan 7, 2012 14:34:15 GMT
could you imagine that a lady on youtube was asking if she was the one only that who found that quasi-rape scene a bit disturbing?? disturbing?? p-leee-ase! Well, I'm going to stick my head above the parapet and say that yes, the first time I watched it, I was also a little uncomfortable with the start of that scene. <waits for the throwing of rotten fruit to subside>When Petruchio had indicated what he was going to do when they were both downstairs, she fled, telling him more than once not to touch her. Then this big man, acting and talking aggressively, throws this tiny screaming woman back on the bed and she's still protesting - and, for admittedly a very short time, it did look like it was going to be a rape. In the context of the fun of the programme up to that point, I did find that jarring and unappealing. It's soon clear, by her disappointment when he stops, that she wanted him to make love to her, but I still maintain that at first it looked uncomfortably like it was going to be forced. So I understand that woman's reaction completely. So there.  <runs away before the next lot of rotten fruit is thrown>(Godmother, the above is not intended as a criticism of your view, in any way. But I just wanted to put another point of view) |
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Post by thegodmother on Jan 8, 2012 9:34:06 GMT
(Godmother, the above is not intended as a criticism of your view, in any way. But I just wanted to put another point of view) Don't worry, i did NOT take it as a criticism. I always like to have a mature and elegant exchange of view...and plus, it would be awfully boring if we agreed on absolutely everything, wouldn't it? I'm used to seeing things in the wider context, and, to me, if she really had not wanted to...well, engage in anything physical with him in that moment, she - would have closed/locked the door - would not have given him THAT look when he dropped his pants off (i did not see any shade of fear or disgust or anything like that in that look) - (moreover, she wouldn't have gone on a honeymoon with him in the first place) It was plain clear to me to that she wanted him too, but she had to play tough, because that what she had been doing in her past 30 smth years. And plus, his character, Petruchio, does not give off anything aggresive to me...his bursts, yelling and so on, are played and controlled...or that's the way I see/feel it. (I do that, every now and again, not necessarily yelling ) Of course, if you take the scene put of the context completely, yeah, it can put you off, but otherwise... |
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Post by kygal on Jan 8, 2012 13:26:55 GMT
Oh my. I dont know whether or not to be disturbed at the fact that that scene did not disturb me at all. I guess I just saw humor in that scene. I will blame it all on Rufusitis that I dont seem to mind (so much) when Rufus (in character) is mean, kills, or may bite someone on the neck. That sounds bad dosent it!
Nice to get other views on that scene. Made me think!
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Post by GreenEyesToo on Jan 8, 2012 14:34:24 GMT
Don't worry, i did NOT take it as a criticism. I always like to have a mature and elegant exchange of view...and plus, it would be awfully boring if we agreed on absolutely everything, wouldn't it? Very true!  I hope I emphasised that those were my views the very first time I watched it, as I watched (i.e. in context), not that they are my continuing views. I think we'll just have to agree to disagree about that scene.  |
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Post by francesca on Jan 8, 2012 18:00:48 GMT
Seeing that he told her he was going to have a lie down and then rip her knickers off and have sex with her and she didn't leave immediately, tells you Kate's feelings on the matter.
When she wakes up later, what does she do ? She goes downstairs and baits him. or tempts him . whichever way you want to look at it. And he chases her . As she probably knew he would.
He picks her up and throws her on the bed not the floor or anywhere she could be hurt.
The nice big soft squashy bed .
he never had any intentions of hurting her.
Come on the play is a comedy and is played for laughs
and should be seen as such
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Post by anyother on Jan 9, 2012 18:15:47 GMT
Ha ha, I love this discussion. The nice big soft squashy bed indeed! Yep, I'm convinced, Frannie!
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Post by joyceinva on Jan 9, 2012 23:38:44 GMT
I think the reason I didn't find it disturbing is that the tone of the piece was comic. Previous threats by Petruchio never amounted to anything, so I guess I just assumed that what would happen is what did happen.
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Post by anglophile on Jan 10, 2012 2:56:38 GMT
Have we forgotten our boy is only 6 years old at this stage?
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Post by kissmekate on Jan 10, 2012 10:30:21 GMT
But he's mighty big for his age! ;D
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Post by GreenEyesToo on Jan 14, 2012 14:30:04 GMT
Come on the play is a comedy and is played for laughs and should be seen as such Well, like GM says, it would be boring if we all agreed all the time. And I did say those were my feelings at the time I was first watching that scene. |
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Post by kernowsqueen on Jun 13, 2012 14:55:46 GMT
Well in the midst of my Rufusitis I found the famous ToTS ... Hmmm.....   I loved our Rufus in his executive transvestite look ( yours truly is mad about Eddie Izzard btw) and I always love Ms Henderson...hmmmmmmmmm..... I loved Rufus as wild and witty --- BUT I'm not so certain that this will be high on my list of favorite Rufus films - maybe further views will charm me. love Kq |
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Post by Rachel on Jul 6, 2022 22:33:13 GMT
In case anyone is interested, TOTS is currently on YouTube in full. Spent my lunch hour (an extended lunch hour) watching it today. It still makes me laugh, it’s one of my favorite Rufus roles.
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Post by kygal on Jul 7, 2022 10:24:23 GMT
Oh  ! Good to know! This is a favorite. So funny! |
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Post by midoro on Jul 8, 2022 17:26:00 GMT
Oh ! Good to know! This is a favorite. So funny! Same here! Thanks Rachel!  |
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