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Post by thegodmother on Jan 6, 2012 15:20:32 GMT
I hope you're feeling better today, Meg! Sophia is making that face because the director just said, "No, I'm not kidding. Isolde is actually supposed to prefer James Franco, and you're going to have more scenes with him than you are with Rufus." i do imagine the director, whoever he was, saying that...couldn't help laughing. I've been watching it for the second time today. I'm starting to like Sophia Myles.. never seen her before, to be honest. But she's really convincig as a very young age (i don't think Isolde was older than 16 or smth at the time, cause that was, more or less, the age girls were getting married back then, wasn't it_ Or even less, but hey, they can't cast a real 14-15 years old...it wouldn't be ok for many reasons), who is torn between duty (she had to be. She was a girl. In those times) and love. She meets this boy, they fall in love and so on, he goes away because he has to, and then she is "won" by him...for another man. (Well, that's be rather confusing, even for a more experience woman) And then she gets to the palace of what she would think is a bad looking, bad mannered, older-than-her-dad man, and there he was, Marke, terribly kind and sweet and mannered, certainly-less-older-than-her-dad AND scorchingly hot...but she loves another. But she can't hate her husband either. He's good to her, he respects and loves her and treats her well. She can only feel some sort of respect, and why not, compassion for the man that loved her so much. She DOES like him, and it shows, she doesn't look terribly displeased when she's around him . If not for Tristan, she probably would have a fairly good relationship with her husband, and even fall in love with him...but like this..she's torn indeed, and her face, her mimics shows that quite well. ok, does anything of the above make any sense to you? or does it all sound like an excuse to reiterrate how good (and good looking, of course) Rufus was in this?? Because he WAS. Irrespective of how a man looks, i can generally tell when he plays good ot not. He he was simply wonderful as a man who tried hardly to keep a country united, to defend his own tribe and house and family, a man with a vision...and at the same time..a man with a heart. A heart that had been wounded before. A man who neglected his heart because of duty and rediscovers how good it is to love someone. A man who can rule a kingdom but is unable to make out whether his wife is cheating on him. The scene on the bridge is..  !. And that face, when he realizes that he was being cheated indeed....and with whom!!. And then a few hours later when he understands completely that the Tristan is not only a short time affair for Isolde, but her great love. To be frank ...i don't know whether I would had liked it at all, if not for Rufus. I wouldn't have even watched it, probably...but I'm glad I did. |
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Post by Petruchio - Good God on Jan 12, 2012 13:47:00 GMT
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Post by anglophile on Jan 12, 2012 17:23:23 GMT
How very odd it must be to watch yourself on film in the presence of others and wonder what they are thinking - or to wonder how to disguise a really  opinion of someone else's work when they are sitting right there next to you and you don't want to hurt their feelings.  actors must have skin 2 feet thick.  of course, Rufus wouldn't need such deep protection because no one could ever be the least bit critical of him. ;D |
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Post by kissmekate on Jan 13, 2012 10:19:03 GMT
Oh, I love his face in that first pic  |
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Post by rueful on Apr 23, 2012 17:25:33 GMT
Belatedly seeing these photos. Beautiful! Thanks, PGG! James Franco wrote a blog about T&I last week, talking about why it was a mistake: www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/04/15/james-franco-s-favorite-mistake-filming-tristan-isolde.htmlJames Franco’s Favorite Mistake: Filming Tristan & IsoldeI learned a lot from doing the film Tristan & Isolde. It was a big mistake. I was an overzealous young actor and wanted to make great movies. I read the script and wasn’t sure about it, but my acting teacher said it was a role that a young Brando or Olivier would do. I thought, “OK…I guess.”
I signed on to the project nine months in advance, and spent every day sword fighting in the backyard of my girlfriend at the time, Marla Sokoloff. I had martial-arts trainers and we’d make sword-fighting videos back there, and then I’d go over to Griffith Park and ride these Andalusian movie horses through the hills.
When I got out to Ireland to shoot, they said they had a new version of the script and all the Braveheart-style battle scenes were changed to stealthy murders. All the training I did was useless.
Midway through the shoot I was doing a scene and all of a sudden it felt like someone hit me on the side of my knee with a baseball bat. We just taped it up, but when they took the bandages off at the end of the day, my knee was three times its normal size.
At that point we were shooting in Prague, so they took me to this hospital there that looked like a subway station. I didn’t trust it. The doctor looked at it and said, “We need to operate immediately! It’s your ACL.” I was like, “Whoa, I need a second opinion.” We had three weeks left of filming and they drained my knee every other day, which was hell. Every morning, I’d go to this physical-therapy place and this woman would massage my leg, and I don’t know why, but she’d be playing the soundtrack to Twin Peaks over and over. We had to shut down production. I flew back to the States and got an arthroscopic operation—it was my patella, not the ACL like the Prague doctor said—and did physical therapy every day for two months. Six months after the main shooting had finished, a physical therapist ended up stitching up my knee, and I finally got through the action scenes.
The movie was produced by Ridley Scott, and he always said, “Kevin Reynolds is a visual director, the script is good, and he’ll deliver the movie.” But I think our personalities just didn’t jibe. [Kevin] had the idea that my character would be more jovial, and I thought he was tragic. He was like, “James, I need you to smile in this scene.” And I said, “No. My character has no reason to be happy.” He said, “James, you can’t keep playing James Dean,” and I replied, “Kevin, you can’t keep making Robin Hood.” That kind of summed up our troubles. Plus, Ridley was off shooting Kingdom of Heaven, so he didn’t help much.
The lesson was that I will never do a movie again that I don’t have a special feeling for. I know now that you feel it somewhere in your gut when you believe in a movie, and that’s why you should do it. Don’t do a movie you wouldn’t see or don’t believe in, because movies can be hell to make.
So many comments, so little time: It was a big mistake. Yes, James, but not for the reasons you think. You were outacted by everyone else on the set, including the sweet little boy who played Tristan as a child and the guys dangling from the nooses. I was like, “Whoa, I need a second opinion.” Are you sure you weren't like, "Whoa, dude, I need a second doobie"?But I think our personalities just didn’t jibe.  Wait. Are you claiming to have a personality now?And I said, “No. My character has no reason to be happy.” And neither did the audience.He said, “James, you can’t keep playing James Dean,” THANK YOU, MR DIRECTOR!Don’t do a movie you wouldn’t see or don’t believe in, because movies can be hell to make. Even worse, they are hell to watch, James.I realize that my dislike of JF is a waste of time, but he's such a jerk, talking negatively about a movie in which he single-handedly ruined every scene he was in! |
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Post by GreenEyesToo on Apr 23, 2012 18:45:15 GMT
Gosh, what a prat he is!  He says himself that he was an "overzealous young actor" - maybe if he'd taken the direction of the very experienced film-maker instead of playing the big I-Am, and maybe if he'd taken the opportunity to study a real actor (Rufus, of course), he'd have had a happier time of it and come out of it a better actor. I'm inclined to think somebody did hit him with a baseball bat, if he had that bad attitude all the time they were filming, in the hope they'd have to get someone else in for Tristan! Rueful, thanks for this, and I agree with everything you said - except I think you held back too much!  |
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Post by jessica on Apr 24, 2012 0:21:25 GMT
Oh my....James, James, James...
A prat indeed. Still so much to learn. Even if you don't like a role, once you're in, you should give it your all, in my opinion. He clearly went through a lot of trouble with the training, and managed to stick out the entire movie (which to Franco's credit, after watching the special features, filming that movie was not easy for anyone) but you should not complain about a project as if everything was everyone else's fault. Franco, take a little responsability and don't pull out the "believe in your roles" card and try to blame others.
Sure the movie wasn't popular, but was it a mistake? Not to me, because it gave Rufus, Sophia and other actors the chance to shine. This was the first time I'd seen Rufus in such a humble role (as my only other experience was Fortinbras) and I was swept away by his performance. So sweet and genuine...I'm thankful this movie was made. Very, very thankful.
I did really like this film and I thought it was fantastic. I'm amazed they pulled off something that spectacular with such a small budget. The costumes and sets were lovely, and the transitions between Ireland and the Czech Republic were flawless.
And those pictures are amazing...but seeing Sophia in full costume with that modern drinking cup and Marke gazing at a screen is just so surreal~
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Post by kygal on Apr 24, 2012 10:22:45 GMT
What a jerk!
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Post by jamolivej on Apr 24, 2012 13:14:44 GMT
Loved this film,loved the music,but I agree it was totally carried by Rufus. Wonderful petformance all through by Rufus and the scene on the bridge was unforgettable .The film could have benefitted from a better supporting cast but it will not stop me from watching it again.
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Post by rueful on Apr 24, 2012 15:34:52 GMT
Gosh, what a prat he is! Prat is the perfect word! We need to start using that in the US. Please, JF didn't need any of that, he's an ACTOR!!!! You can tell by the way he stares off into the distance with glazed and watery eyes. Franco, take a little responsability and don't pull out the "believe in your roles" card and try to blame others. Hear, hear!!! I did really like this film and I thought it was fantastic. I liked T&I too, despite JF's weak performance. I thought all the other actors, especially Rufus and Sophia, gave very moving performances. As we've said before, Sophia should be given special credit for making it believable that she could prefer drippy Tristan to noble Marke. |
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Post by francesca on Apr 24, 2012 17:58:10 GMT
Of all the arrogant conceited w***ers( to use Rufus's word) James Franco must take the biscuit. A leading part and surrounded by experienced and talented actors , what does he do? He bleats about 'not believing in the part' Grow up Franco! Being a professional actor means you go to work and do the best you can. Either you did not do the best you could or you just were not competent And that is the one I believe What an unpleasant character! I wonder what Rufus,( with his attitudes of being nice and courteous) made of him? BTW Ronan Vibert( who played one of the Irish Baddies ) was in school with my brother. I remember seeing him as Fagin in a school production of 'Oliver' . He had more talent then , at sixteen, than Franco will ever have. |
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Post by lindragon on Apr 24, 2012 18:41:36 GMT
May I just second Frannie's words? The cast was made up of a number of experienced actors. Ok, some of them not terribly well-known, as they do more theatre than film, but even so. They, and the novices, worked hard to make a very interesting and watchable film. ( Yes, one of my favourites). Shame Mr. Franco was too 'important' to do likewise. Time to grow up, or shut up.
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Post by GreenEyesToo on Apr 25, 2012 13:01:52 GMT
Please, JF didn't need any of that, he's an ACTOR!!!! You can tell by the way he stares off into the distance with glazed and watery eyes. I think you mean "ac-TOR!", luvvie!! A leading part and surrounded by experienced and talented actors , what does he do? He bleats about 'not believing in the part' Grow up Franco! Quite! I mean, Rufus hasn't always made the best choices, Dirty Weekend, for instance, where he must have realised how c**p the film was, but that didn't stop him giving 110% to his performance. If Franco "didn't believe in it", he should have found a way! I reckon that's just the excuse he came up with, having realised not only how much he was out-acted but also how much worse that made him look! |
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Post by anyother on Apr 25, 2012 18:38:16 GMT
Ha ha ha, he IS a prat, I agree heartily with all of you. Rufus even makes a bad film watchable, JF just spoils a good film. There.
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Post by joyceinva on Apr 25, 2012 19:19:32 GMT
I'm sorry, but the mark of a professional is to give you best effort no matter what. What an idiot, to try now to deflect criticisim from his own poor performance by trying to blame the director, the script, etc., etc.
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Wait. Are you claiming to have a personality now?
